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		<title>By: Tom Frost Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Frost Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 00:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here ya go: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CyclingFieldofHonor]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here ya go: <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CyclingFieldofHonor" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CyclingFieldofHonor</a></p>
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		<title>By: bud Laumer, LCI</title>
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		<dc:creator>bud Laumer, LCI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 21:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was happy to read Andy&#039;s post and I guess I should have left it there.  The LAB does great work and I am proud to be a member. I am glad that we have sponsors who underwrite efforts to improve facilities nationwide.  There is work to be done and that involves our working together.  In that work I continue to engage with an organization that works for me.  No problem.  End of story.
FYI-I delisted from the LCI listserve to avoid the sort of parinoid, negative, backbiting that has now migrated here. Why can&#039;t we all agree to limit this sort of mud slinging to the LCI group and save this space for real news and the occasional three cheers for staff when they score a success???
If that is not possible, I have to wonder if the angry, bitter types need to form a group of their own where they can investigate one another to their heart&#039;s content. Come on people, we have work to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was happy to read Andy&#8217;s post and I guess I should have left it there.  The LAB does great work and I am proud to be a member. I am glad that we have sponsors who underwrite efforts to improve facilities nationwide.  There is work to be done and that involves our working together.  In that work I continue to engage with an organization that works for me.  No problem.  End of story.<br />
FYI-I delisted from the LCI listserve to avoid the sort of parinoid, negative, backbiting that has now migrated here. Why can&#8217;t we all agree to limit this sort of mud slinging to the LCI group and save this space for real news and the occasional three cheers for staff when they score a success???<br />
If that is not possible, I have to wonder if the angry, bitter types need to form a group of their own where they can investigate one another to their heart&#8217;s content. Come on people, we have work to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Duerk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Duerk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 10:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jobs,economic development and national security.

How many bike shops are in my state?  How much revenue and jobs do they generate?  How many bikes have been sold in 2010?

Bicycles should be listed as national security equipment.  When the roads are blocked with traffic, no trains are available, bicyclists and walkers can escape harm by using the trails connecting our communities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jobs,economic development and national security.</p>
<p>How many bike shops are in my state?  How much revenue and jobs do they generate?  How many bikes have been sold in 2010?</p>
<p>Bicycles should be listed as national security equipment.  When the roads are blocked with traffic, no trains are available, bicyclists and walkers can escape harm by using the trails connecting our communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Khal Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khal Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 16:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Darren, to be clear. I don&#039;t recommend we pack our tents and move the League offices back to Illinois (or wherever). But one has to harvest from the fields that have crops in them. 

Don&#039;t get me wrong. I am quite concerned about the potential drying up of Federal dollars. Several years ago I was a member of the Los Alamos Transit Task Force that defined the parameters of our very successful county bus system and I still perform oversight duties as Chair of our County Transportation Board. Although we fund a considerable piece of that pie, we do count on Federal funds. Further, we are tied into the Northern New Mexico Regional Transit District. It relies on Federal funds including those directed through the NNM Pueblos. So this IS a big deal. Not to mention, the last big segments of our spiffy new bike lanes were funded in part with ARRA money.

But we have to cover our bases--surely nothing you and Andy have not already discussed. With so many new Congressmen (and women) elected on a pledge to cut Federal spending and reduce the scope of Federal mandates, we have our work cut out for us in convincing these folks what is still a viable Federal mandate. Personally, I would focus on those things that can be cast in terms of national mission. Perhaps a healthier and physically fit nation, as President Eisenhower challenged us in the fifies. We bang the drum on obesity and active living. This is not a new drum:

http://www.loti.com/sixties_history/The_Eisenhower_Years.htm

 As for the rest? Well, we look to State and Local Government. And, we look to individual cyclists and cycling clubs/associations to depend more on themselves and their competence on existing facilities and less to Government funds that might not be there.

Like all things in Government, this tide will rise and fall. Cycling is not dependent on the tides. After all, we ride bikes, not sailboats.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren, to be clear. I don&#8217;t recommend we pack our tents and move the League offices back to Illinois (or wherever). But one has to harvest from the fields that have crops in them. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong. I am quite concerned about the potential drying up of Federal dollars. Several years ago I was a member of the Los Alamos Transit Task Force that defined the parameters of our very successful county bus system and I still perform oversight duties as Chair of our County Transportation Board. Although we fund a considerable piece of that pie, we do count on Federal funds. Further, we are tied into the Northern New Mexico Regional Transit District. It relies on Federal funds including those directed through the NNM Pueblos. So this IS a big deal. Not to mention, the last big segments of our spiffy new bike lanes were funded in part with ARRA money.</p>
<p>But we have to cover our bases&#8211;surely nothing you and Andy have not already discussed. With so many new Congressmen (and women) elected on a pledge to cut Federal spending and reduce the scope of Federal mandates, we have our work cut out for us in convincing these folks what is still a viable Federal mandate. Personally, I would focus on those things that can be cast in terms of national mission. Perhaps a healthier and physically fit nation, as President Eisenhower challenged us in the fifies. We bang the drum on obesity and active living. This is not a new drum:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.loti.com/sixties_history/The_Eisenhower_Years.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.loti.com/sixties_history/The_Eisenhower_Years.htm</a></p>
<p> As for the rest? Well, we look to State and Local Government. And, we look to individual cyclists and cycling clubs/associations to depend more on themselves and their competence on existing facilities and less to Government funds that might not be there.</p>
<p>Like all things in Government, this tide will rise and fall. Cycling is not dependent on the tides. After all, we ride bikes, not sailboats.</p>
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		<title>By: Khal Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khal Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 21:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...It seems like a lot of energy is being spent on less productive things....&quot;

For example?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;It seems like a lot of energy is being spent on less productive things&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>For example?</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 15:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is broad agreement here about the need for local advocacy. It may not have been clear from the press release, but the Sram grant funds efforts by the League and the Alliance to support state and local advocacy through research, grants, and technical support. That said, the target still needs to be federal funding sources (which are divvied up by states and MPOs) because that&#039;s where the money is. Let&#039;s not get ahead of ourselves in thinking otherwise. Now is not the time to stop fighting for a piece of the pie, it&#039;s the time to redouble our efforts. Let&#039;s all work for it together. It seems like a lot of energy is being spent on less productive things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is broad agreement here about the need for local advocacy. It may not have been clear from the press release, but the Sram grant funds efforts by the League and the Alliance to support state and local advocacy through research, grants, and technical support. That said, the target still needs to be federal funding sources (which are divvied up by states and MPOs) because that&#8217;s where the money is. Let&#8217;s not get ahead of ourselves in thinking otherwise. Now is not the time to stop fighting for a piece of the pie, it&#8217;s the time to redouble our efforts. Let&#8217;s all work for it together. It seems like a lot of energy is being spent on less productive things.</p>
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		<title>By: Khal Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Khal Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 04:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Federal funds, including match funds for state and local governments have certainly been important in the last decade or so. But with 60 new and highly skeptical conservative Republican and Tea Party members in the House (which originates Federal spending bills), that money simply might not be there or might be there in greatly diminished quantities.

As Mr. Moeur apparently agrees, cycling has gotten increased strength as a strongly local issue and this asset needs to be worked. Cyclists and pedestrians (and those who use mass transit) need to work their local governments and state legislatures to ensure good programs such as Complete Streets survive. The conservative mood in Congress is to reduce the size and scope of the Federal pie. Ok, fine, we need to work on the state and local pies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Federal funds, including match funds for state and local governments have certainly been important in the last decade or so. But with 60 new and highly skeptical conservative Republican and Tea Party members in the House (which originates Federal spending bills), that money simply might not be there or might be there in greatly diminished quantities.</p>
<p>As Mr. Moeur apparently agrees, cycling has gotten increased strength as a strongly local issue and this asset needs to be worked. Cyclists and pedestrians (and those who use mass transit) need to work their local governments and state legislatures to ensure good programs such as Complete Streets survive. The conservative mood in Congress is to reduce the size and scope of the Federal pie. Ok, fine, we need to work on the state and local pies.</p>
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		<title>By: John Brooking</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Brooking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 01:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason, I was responding to Andy&#039;s assertion that the majority of the board is member-elected. Technically true.

We obviously don&#039;t see eye to eye, but I&#039;m going to refrain from getting personal about it. Have a nice evening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, I was responding to Andy&#8217;s assertion that the majority of the board is member-elected. Technically true.</p>
<p>We obviously don&#8217;t see eye to eye, but I&#8217;m going to refrain from getting personal about it. Have a nice evening.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 23:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Way to go SRAM! I love the SRAM shifters on my road bike. Glad to hear that my dollars spent on them filter their way back to advocacy. 

@John Brookings-

I don&#039;t know you, but with your lack of understanding of the importance of federal transportation funding for bicycling in the last blog post, and your lack of discretion by posting your screed above makes me think those in charge made the right call. You don&#039;t seem fit to direct the LAB in these critical times. It reminds me when I saw Forrester listed as a candidate a few years back. The only reason I bothered voting for the board at all was to vote against him.

I&#039;ve seen the pages you have about the board election. Your &#039;reform&#039; group seems to talk about member this, member that. As a member I&#039;m happy with what they&#039;re doing. It&#039;s been a few years I think, but I recall seeing a membership survey with high marks for LAB&#039;s work. Is it possible that despite the rhetoric that most LAB members are happy with their work? Maybe it&#039;s time for another membership survey.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go SRAM! I love the SRAM shifters on my road bike. Glad to hear that my dollars spent on them filter their way back to advocacy. </p>
<p>@John Brookings-</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know you, but with your lack of understanding of the importance of federal transportation funding for bicycling in the last blog post, and your lack of discretion by posting your screed above makes me think those in charge made the right call. You don&#8217;t seem fit to direct the LAB in these critical times. It reminds me when I saw Forrester listed as a candidate a few years back. The only reason I bothered voting for the board at all was to vote against him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the pages you have about the board election. Your &#8216;reform&#8217; group seems to talk about member this, member that. As a member I&#8217;m happy with what they&#8217;re doing. It&#8217;s been a few years I think, but I recall seeing a membership survey with high marks for LAB&#8217;s work. Is it possible that despite the rhetoric that most LAB members are happy with their work? Maybe it&#8217;s time for another membership survey.</p>
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		<title>By: John Brooking</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Brooking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was not involved with the LAB during the time Mr. Schubert is referring to, so I cannot speak to what has happened in the past. However, at the present time, as one of the rejected candidates for the current round of elections, I do think that the fact that the current board has first review of any hopeful member-elected candidate, and the power to reject such candidate without any public transparency regarding the reason, detracts significantly from the claim of being &quot;elected by the membership&quot;. It seems more like the membership vote is merely a formality at that point.

I say without any *public* transparency, but I note that in my communication from the Governance Committee in which I was informed that I was not selected to be a nominee, I was not even told privately the reason I was not selected. I have therefore just written to the chair of that committee asking him to let me know how they felt I was unqualified. I do not intend to publish the detail of what he says, respecting the privacy of our email discussion, but I reserve the right to communicate my general level of satisfaction with the answer.

Two additional points: (1) Yes, there is a petition process available to rejected candidates, and I, Khal, and Eli Damon did try to use it to get on the ballot, but did not succeed. We have documented our efforts, and it has been the subject of some discussion whether the process itself is sufficiently accessible or reasonable. I don&#039;t want to get into that discussion here, but simply bring it up. (2) The Governance Committee got 23 applications and approved 8 of them to run. Four of those were the incumbents, so out of the 19 *new* applicants, they chose only 4 to run. Surely the other 15 were not all unqualified? Assuming they were not, why the arbitrary cutoff? Why reject *any* who meet a minimum level of qualification? Why not let the membership truly decide? I would like to know the thought behind this decision. It too detracts from the claim of a membership-elected board.

Finally, it is true that the (bare) majority of the board is still member-elected (such as that is), but it should be noted that that percentage just decreased over the summer, with no input from membership and minimal communication after the fact. It decreased from 7 elected of 12 total (58%) to 8 elected of 15 total (53%). The bylaws in Article III Section 2 state that the board size may be increased to up to 17 members, but only in a &quot;similar&quot; proportion of elected to appointed directors as the original 7/12. Had the board made *two* of the 3 new positions created this summer elected, rather than just one, the proportion elected would then have been 60%. So rather than allowing the elected percentage to grow by 2%, they chose to shrink it by 5%. Do they think -5% is &quot;close enough&quot;, compared to +2%?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was not involved with the LAB during the time Mr. Schubert is referring to, so I cannot speak to what has happened in the past. However, at the present time, as one of the rejected candidates for the current round of elections, I do think that the fact that the current board has first review of any hopeful member-elected candidate, and the power to reject such candidate without any public transparency regarding the reason, detracts significantly from the claim of being &#8220;elected by the membership&#8221;. It seems more like the membership vote is merely a formality at that point.</p>
<p>I say without any *public* transparency, but I note that in my communication from the Governance Committee in which I was informed that I was not selected to be a nominee, I was not even told privately the reason I was not selected. I have therefore just written to the chair of that committee asking him to let me know how they felt I was unqualified. I do not intend to publish the detail of what he says, respecting the privacy of our email discussion, but I reserve the right to communicate my general level of satisfaction with the answer.</p>
<p>Two additional points: (1) Yes, there is a petition process available to rejected candidates, and I, Khal, and Eli Damon did try to use it to get on the ballot, but did not succeed. We have documented our efforts, and it has been the subject of some discussion whether the process itself is sufficiently accessible or reasonable. I don&#8217;t want to get into that discussion here, but simply bring it up. (2) The Governance Committee got 23 applications and approved 8 of them to run. Four of those were the incumbents, so out of the 19 *new* applicants, they chose only 4 to run. Surely the other 15 were not all unqualified? Assuming they were not, why the arbitrary cutoff? Why reject *any* who meet a minimum level of qualification? Why not let the membership truly decide? I would like to know the thought behind this decision. It too detracts from the claim of a membership-elected board.</p>
<p>Finally, it is true that the (bare) majority of the board is still member-elected (such as that is), but it should be noted that that percentage just decreased over the summer, with no input from membership and minimal communication after the fact. It decreased from 7 elected of 12 total (58%) to 8 elected of 15 total (53%). The bylaws in Article III Section 2 state that the board size may be increased to up to 17 members, but only in a &#8220;similar&#8221; proportion of elected to appointed directors as the original 7/12. Had the board made *two* of the 3 new positions created this summer elected, rather than just one, the proportion elected would then have been 60%. So rather than allowing the elected percentage to grow by 2%, they chose to shrink it by 5%. Do they think -5% is &#8220;close enough&#8221;, compared to +2%?</p>
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