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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Riding a Bike vs Looking Normal&#8221; (WBS12)</title>
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		<title>By: Khal Spencer</title>
		<link>http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/2012/10/riding-a-bike-vs-looking-normal-wbs12/comment-page-1/#comment-36844</link>
		<dc:creator>Khal Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maria, you rock!

Too often, &quot;normal&quot; is defined by what those masses of other people want and it keeps reminding me of that line from a Bruce Cockburn song, &quot;...the trouble with normal is it always gets worse...&quot;. You have defined it as what makes you feel good. That&#039;s the bottom line, as well as turning the status quo on its head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maria, you rock!</p>
<p>Too often, &#8220;normal&#8221; is defined by what those masses of other people want and it keeps reminding me of that line from a Bruce Cockburn song, &#8220;&#8230;the trouble with normal is it always gets worse&#8230;&#8221;. You have defined it as what makes you feel good. That&#8217;s the bottom line, as well as turning the status quo on its head.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria Boustead</title>
		<link>http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/2012/10/riding-a-bike-vs-looking-normal-wbs12/comment-page-1/#comment-36843</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria Boustead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comments on my presentation everyone! 

I can see how the word &quot;normal&quot; could rub someone the wrong way but that certainly doesn&#039;t mean that what makes me feel normal is the same for everyone. I always encourage people to wear what they want and use the gear they want and the more options there are, the better. I agree that there is no one-size-fits-all solution for cyclists, nor should there be. 

Personally, I don&#039;t want to have to change the way I dress or what I am carrying because of how I want to get to work, whether that&#039;s by walking, biking, driving or taking the bus. I would never wear a backpack or haul around a touring pannier if I wasn&#039;t biking, so I needed a different solution. I know that backpacks and touring panniers work great for lots of people, and that&#039;s great. They just don&#039;t work for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments on my presentation everyone! </p>
<p>I can see how the word &#8220;normal&#8221; could rub someone the wrong way but that certainly doesn&#8217;t mean that what makes me feel normal is the same for everyone. I always encourage people to wear what they want and use the gear they want and the more options there are, the better. I agree that there is no one-size-fits-all solution for cyclists, nor should there be. </p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t want to have to change the way I dress or what I am carrying because of how I want to get to work, whether that&#8217;s by walking, biking, driving or taking the bus. I would never wear a backpack or haul around a touring pannier if I wasn&#8217;t biking, so I needed a different solution. I know that backpacks and touring panniers work great for lots of people, and that&#8217;s great. They just don&#8217;t work for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Khal Spencer</title>
		<link>http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/2012/10/riding-a-bike-vs-looking-normal-wbs12/comment-page-1/#comment-36840</link>
		<dc:creator>Khal Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely, Carolyn. Bicycling should be liberating, not confining. I think the message has to be &quot;be who you are, not who someone else wants you to be&quot;. I think this whole notion of asking what is &quot;normal&quot; hit a few buttons, not the least of which were on Ian and my button list.

Worrying about what to wear, or where to ride, or whether one&#039;s act of bicycling to work and choice of clothing while on the bike, is acceptable to someone else, whether that someone else is or is not a cyclist, is confining and runs contrary to promoting cycling as liberating. Hence my analogy to cycling in a burqa, which has to be the world&#039;s most stifling and un-liberating symbol of modern life (esp. for women), at least by our secular Western model. 

What is riding a bike? Its simply riding a bike. The rest of the stuff is secondary and for most, optional. I don&#039;t ride to work in lycra for any other reason than that it feels good to ride in lycra and to change into fresh work clothes at the office. Not to mention, it makes sense if my ride home from work is by way of every hill I can find. Well, I do make sure the jersey is a lot looser fitting than what I used to wear :-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, Carolyn. Bicycling should be liberating, not confining. I think the message has to be &#8220;be who you are, not who someone else wants you to be&#8221;. I think this whole notion of asking what is &#8220;normal&#8221; hit a few buttons, not the least of which were on Ian and my button list.</p>
<p>Worrying about what to wear, or where to ride, or whether one&#8217;s act of bicycling to work and choice of clothing while on the bike, is acceptable to someone else, whether that someone else is or is not a cyclist, is confining and runs contrary to promoting cycling as liberating. Hence my analogy to cycling in a burqa, which has to be the world&#8217;s most stifling and un-liberating symbol of modern life (esp. for women), at least by our secular Western model. </p>
<p>What is riding a bike? Its simply riding a bike. The rest of the stuff is secondary and for most, optional. I don&#8217;t ride to work in lycra for any other reason than that it feels good to ride in lycra and to change into fresh work clothes at the office. Not to mention, it makes sense if my ride home from work is by way of every hill I can find. Well, I do make sure the jersey is a lot looser fitting than what I used to wear <img src='http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/2012/10/riding-a-bike-vs-looking-normal-wbs12/comment-page-1/#comment-36836</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh Khal, no put-down intended! I proudly bring my helmet everywhere I go because I relish being recognized as a cyclist. But, like you said, let&#039;s not let our different styles of riding divide us. Whether you wear jeans or Lycra, whether you carry a Po Campo or Ortlieb bag, whether you ride in the cycletrack or on the street -- getting more folks riding is a good thing and that starts with providing options for them to feel safe and comfortable! I think we&#039;re better served by respecting everyone&#039;s opinions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Khal, no put-down intended! I proudly bring my helmet everywhere I go because I relish being recognized as a cyclist. But, like you said, let&#8217;s not let our different styles of riding divide us. Whether you wear jeans or Lycra, whether you carry a Po Campo or Ortlieb bag, whether you ride in the cycletrack or on the street &#8212; getting more folks riding is a good thing and that starts with providing options for them to feel safe and comfortable! I think we&#8217;re better served by respecting everyone&#8217;s opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Khal Spencer</title>
		<link>http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/2012/10/riding-a-bike-vs-looking-normal-wbs12/comment-page-1/#comment-36835</link>
		<dc:creator>Khal Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 22:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the building where I do most of my work, cyclists have the Cadillac spaces:  enclosed and lockable bike lockers located half as far from the building as the regular motor vehicle parking lot. The boxes protect our bikes from that harsh UV at 7,000 feet and you can leave lights, helmets, gloves, etc securely on the bike. I bring in my pannier with lunch and clothing. Being a chemistry building, we also have several showers/locker rooms, making changing and cleanup a snap. 

Of course, it helps to be in a business made up primarily of coneheads, scientists, and other non-conformists. Rarely does a cyclist, even one dressed up like an industrial paint accident at a lycra plant (moi), get seriously razzed.

Vive la différence!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the building where I do most of my work, cyclists have the Cadillac spaces:  enclosed and lockable bike lockers located half as far from the building as the regular motor vehicle parking lot. The boxes protect our bikes from that harsh UV at 7,000 feet and you can leave lights, helmets, gloves, etc securely on the bike. I bring in my pannier with lunch and clothing. Being a chemistry building, we also have several showers/locker rooms, making changing and cleanup a snap. </p>
<p>Of course, it helps to be in a business made up primarily of coneheads, scientists, and other non-conformists. Rarely does a cyclist, even one dressed up like an industrial paint accident at a lycra plant (moi), get seriously razzed.</p>
<p>Vive la différence!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 16:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of the backpacks and Timbuck2 bags where I work are brought in by motorists due to their long walk from the parking lot. The only reason I carry my helmet in to my desk instead of locking the straps with my bike is the UV here in Texas. So what is all this &quot;obvious difference?&quot; I guess a Topeak trunk bag gives the game away. Sheesh...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the backpacks and Timbuck2 bags where I work are brought in by motorists due to their long walk from the parking lot. The only reason I carry my helmet in to my desk instead of locking the straps with my bike is the UV here in Texas. So what is all this &#8220;obvious difference?&#8221; I guess a Topeak trunk bag gives the game away. Sheesh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Brett Cooper</title>
		<link>http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/2012/10/riding-a-bike-vs-looking-normal-wbs12/comment-page-1/#comment-36832</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Brett Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are already simple solutions for bike commuters. There have been bike bags that convert to shoulder bags for decades. If cyclists can&#039;t find them, they need to look harder. Admittedly, most bike shops these days cater exclusively to the spandex brigade, but Amazon and eBay have plenty of bike gear that can work in one&#039;s normal life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are already simple solutions for bike commuters. There have been bike bags that convert to shoulder bags for decades. If cyclists can&#8217;t find them, they need to look harder. Admittedly, most bike shops these days cater exclusively to the spandex brigade, but Amazon and eBay have plenty of bike gear that can work in one&#8217;s normal life.</p>
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		<title>By: Khal Spencer</title>
		<link>http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/2012/10/riding-a-bike-vs-looking-normal-wbs12/comment-page-1/#comment-36830</link>
		<dc:creator>Khal Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Three cheers for those who want to tone down their cycling apparel and look, ahem, &quot;normal&quot;. But please, why should those of us who choose to get double duty out of our &quot;spandex&quot; (i.e., wearing it both to commute to work and on weekend non-commute rides)  have to put up with these subtle put-downs not only from our amused and critical non-cycling colleagues but also from the &quot;new normal&quot; of cyclists and from the League of American Bicyclists? Is Spandex too lurid for the public, only suited for bike races among our own kind, or Bicyclist Pride/Coming Out Day in places like Santa Fe, The Village, and San Francisco?

Its not clear to me why a cyclist wearing spandex is any more off-normal than a motorist in a yellow WRX or a red Porsche. Maybe cycling is the new normal and the choice between a pair of Assos bib knickers vs. George Hincapie&#039;s subtle but effective cycling jeans is no different than choosing between a Guard&#039;s Red Cayman or a dark blue Acura. 

As far as baggage. Companies need to embrace cycling. The difference between Maria showing up with her &quot;baggage&quot; to stow and Maria&#039;s colleague stowing a car in a 10x20 foot parking space is a fine point lost on me. I bet Maria is saving someone besides herself some money. 

Seems there is a running subtext here lately. We are being encouraged to become &quot;Copenhagenized&quot;, i.e., ride slowly on bicycles, in our street clothing, on cycletracks, and forswear helmets. Sounds a little stifling to me. Kinda like a cycling equivalent of the burqa.In our quest to make cycling universally accessible, lets not also try to make it boring.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three cheers for those who want to tone down their cycling apparel and look, ahem, &#8220;normal&#8221;. But please, why should those of us who choose to get double duty out of our &#8220;spandex&#8221; (i.e., wearing it both to commute to work and on weekend non-commute rides)  have to put up with these subtle put-downs not only from our amused and critical non-cycling colleagues but also from the &#8220;new normal&#8221; of cyclists and from the League of American Bicyclists? Is Spandex too lurid for the public, only suited for bike races among our own kind, or Bicyclist Pride/Coming Out Day in places like Santa Fe, The Village, and San Francisco?</p>
<p>Its not clear to me why a cyclist wearing spandex is any more off-normal than a motorist in a yellow WRX or a red Porsche. Maybe cycling is the new normal and the choice between a pair of Assos bib knickers vs. George Hincapie&#8217;s subtle but effective cycling jeans is no different than choosing between a Guard&#8217;s Red Cayman or a dark blue Acura. </p>
<p>As far as baggage. Companies need to embrace cycling. The difference between Maria showing up with her &#8220;baggage&#8221; to stow and Maria&#8217;s colleague stowing a car in a 10&#215;20 foot parking space is a fine point lost on me. I bet Maria is saving someone besides herself some money. </p>
<p>Seems there is a running subtext here lately. We are being encouraged to become &#8220;Copenhagenized&#8221;, i.e., ride slowly on bicycles, in our street clothing, on cycletracks, and forswear helmets. Sounds a little stifling to me. Kinda like a cycling equivalent of the burqa.In our quest to make cycling universally accessible, lets not also try to make it boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/2012/10/riding-a-bike-vs-looking-normal-wbs12/comment-page-1/#comment-36828</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am fortunate enought to work in a professional environment that also embraces biking, the best of both worlds in my opinion. I bike 20 miles every day to and from work. I do it partly because it saves a TON of money, partly because it makes me feel proactive in fighting against pollution, it&#039;s healthy, and I love it! I don&#039;t ride my bike because I am an athlete however, and I see around me on my commute that the look of the spandex wearing &quot;athlete biker&quot; is rare anymore. The idea of creating accessories that speak to commuters on their way to their various types of employment seems to be a good one but I would certainly not say it is &quot;unique to women&quot;. In fact  most of the people I know who ride bikes are more fashion conscious than those I know who commute by car. As a man, I can personally say that owning the correct apparel for biking to work has immense value and needs to be both fashionable and functional.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am fortunate enought to work in a professional environment that also embraces biking, the best of both worlds in my opinion. I bike 20 miles every day to and from work. I do it partly because it saves a TON of money, partly because it makes me feel proactive in fighting against pollution, it&#8217;s healthy, and I love it! I don&#8217;t ride my bike because I am an athlete however, and I see around me on my commute that the look of the spandex wearing &#8220;athlete biker&#8221; is rare anymore. The idea of creating accessories that speak to commuters on their way to their various types of employment seems to be a good one but I would certainly not say it is &#8220;unique to women&#8221;. In fact  most of the people I know who ride bikes are more fashion conscious than those I know who commute by car. As a man, I can personally say that owning the correct apparel for biking to work has immense value and needs to be both fashionable and functional.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
		<link>http://blog.bikeleague.org/blog/2012/10/riding-a-bike-vs-looking-normal-wbs12/comment-page-1/#comment-36826</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There should be no one-size-fits-all solutions here and the sooner we all realize that truth (that includes the bike biz that is so racer-wannabe centric), the better off we will be as cyclists.&quot; 

Well-said, Khal!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There should be no one-size-fits-all solutions here and the sooner we all realize that truth (that includes the bike biz that is so racer-wannabe centric), the better off we will be as cyclists.&#8221; </p>
<p>Well-said, Khal!</p>
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